Finding Personal and Professional Fulfillment as a New Mom with AnnMarie Rose
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Episode Summary
I’m so excited to have AnnMarie Rose, an Online Business Strategist and Quiz Funnel Expert with nearly a decade of experience, on the show today. We get to see an inside look of how she balances helping her clients earn millions while growing into her role as a new mom.
During our conversation, we chat about some of the more vulnerable pieces of being a first time mom – monetary shifts during maternity leave, finding personal fulfillment in new ways, getting comfortable with enforcing stricter boundaries, and more. There’s too many nuggets to fit in this description, so I hope you’ll tune into the full episode and find your own favorite takeaway!
Topics Discussed:
How AnnMarie became an online business strategist and how motherhood plays into this
Rectifying the monetary shifts and personal fulfillment piece that comes with starting your own business
How AnnMarie helps her clients avoid overwhelm and burnout while creating businesses of impact
The different ways that AnnMarie supports herself, her spouse, and her son throughout the shifting expectations of entrepreneurship and motherhood
Why AnnMarie prioritizes having open and honest conversations as her priorities shift to meet fulfillment
What it actually looks like to create and gracefully enforce boundaries and how this has been a key part of success for AnnMarie
About AnnMarie:
AnnMarie Rose is an Online Business Strategist and Quiz Funnel Expert with nearly a decade of experience helping business owners leverage their zone of genius to reach the right audience with the right message and generate revenue online. She and her team have helped hundreds of coaches, consultants and experts pivot and scale with ease by aligning their business model with their vision, refining their offer suite, clarifying their brand message, and streamlining their marketing and sales systems so they can impact (and earn) millions online without overwhelm or burnout. When AnnMarie isn't working, you can catch her sweating it out at a local fitness studio, pulling tarot cards and journaling, sipping wine or coffee with girlfriends at one of her go-to spots downtown San Diego or doing something fun with her husband and business partner Jeremy and their 5 month old son, Grant.
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Emily Gorrie:
Welcome to today's episode of the Project Mom Podcast. Today, I'm chatting with Anne-Marie Rose. She's an online business strategist and quiz funnel expert with nearly a decade of experience helping business owners leverage their zone of genius to reach the right audience with the right message and generate revenue online. When Anne-Marie isn't working, you can catch her sweating it out at a local fitness studio, pulling tarot cards and journaling, sipping wine or coffee with girlfriends. and doing something fun with her husband and business partner, Jeremy, and their five-month-old son. So Anne-Marie, welcome. Thank you for being here.
AnnMarie Rose:
Thanks so much for having me.
Emily Gorrie:
I'm excited. I know we did a little bit of back and forth, getting this on the calendar for my sake, so I appreciate you. I feel like that is motherhood and business owning in and of itself, just navigating and being flexible and just trying to figure everything out day by day. So it fits perfectly with this.
AnnMarie Rose:
No kidding.
Emily Gorrie:
Yeah, right? So I want to get started with kind of understanding that intersection. of for you. So the intersection of entrepreneurship and motherhood. So maybe start by sharing with us kind of that progression for you. What, how did you become an online business strategist and then where did motherhood come into play for you?
AnnMarie Rose:
I'll give you the short version. I've always been entrepreneurial. I was that kid that had the lemonade stand when I wanted to buy new earrings. So I got a hunch in college that I would eventually run a business. And I was going to school for journalism. Knew I didn't want to go the traditional journalism route, so right out of college, I started a marketing agency downtown San Diego, where I still currently live. And through that work there, I realized that I was dealing with brands who had really big budgets, and we were sort of the executors. And I'll be honest, my strengths lie more in the strategic thinking, influencing. I don't know if you're familiar with Strength Finders, using that language at the moment
Emily Gorrie:
Yep.
AnnMarie Rose:
realm. So I knew that just how I was hardwired for success was not gonna set me up well to contribute in the best way possible in that environment. I also knew because I had somewhat of a background in fitness that there were a lot of small fitness studios that needed marketing support. And so I just asked myself, well, what if I could go leverage my strengths to support some of these smaller businesses who don't have these massive budgets and I can serve in more of that strategic and influencing way and do some of the execution early on and that's what I did. So I started just kind of, for lack of better terms, freelancing, doing more done for you social media content marketing for smaller businesses. One thing led to another and I got... several clients in the online business space who supported with business development personal development and really loved the opportunity that that realm presented to leverage your zone of genius share it with others and Make a great living doing that so also through that realized that a number of my clients were Pouring into content marketing social media marketing to grow businesses. They weren't really thrilled about growing and
Emily Gorrie:
Mmm.
AnnMarie Rose:
I am all about impact so like my body physically couldn't do the doing to support them in growing a business that I saw having a negative impact on them.
Emily Gorrie:
Yeah.
AnnMarie Rose:
So I kind of asked myself, okay, what's the bottom line that's not being addressed here? And it was the vision and how that CEO is hard-rided for success. So through those realizations and some development of various frameworks, really the business became a business strategy consultancy. And that also then allowed me to see the possibility for what I knew I wanted long-term, which was the ability to be very present with a family one day and also be a business owner. Those are two parts of my identity that I saw playing out from the time I was, this sounds silly, but from the time I was in the first grade,
Emily Gorrie:
Yeah,
AnnMarie Rose:
I would, in
Emily Gorrie:
I
AnnMarie Rose:
my
Emily Gorrie:
love
AnnMarie Rose:
head,
Emily Gorrie:
that.
AnnMarie Rose:
when I went to first grade, I would pretend I was going to work. in my head just to like, I don't know, keep myself
Emily Gorrie:
How
AnnMarie Rose:
busy.
Emily Gorrie:
great! Yes, I love that.
AnnMarie Rose:
And I always pictured a family at home, even from that age. And so that's like, I knew that was part of, gonna be part of my journey and that I wanted the option at least to be, to not have to have like the nine to five daycare option. Nothing wrong with it, but I knew that I just, I liked the choice. I like the choice.
Emily Gorrie:
Yeah, absolutely. I love the kind of evolution that you went through to get to this part and
AnnMarie Rose:
Mm.
Emily Gorrie:
understanding like even, I mean, I love how darling that story is of like you, like that young kind of picturing this like ideal scenario for yourself and like understanding right as you got older, as you started to do more things, put yourself in different work environments, different types of clients. you know, clients with certain visions or lack of visions, right, there's this evolution that you take to kind of create this ideal version for you now, right, in
AnnMarie Rose:
Mmm.
Emily Gorrie:
this ability to adapt and shift based on different stages of your life and kind of the impact it was having on you as well. So I really appreciate you sharing that. And I would love maybe if you could touch a little bit on like maybe it's. on this evolution, as you were talking, you mentioned a little bit to me, and this is slightly off topic, but I'm kind of thinking maybe my listeners would want to hear about this too. I
AnnMarie Rose:
Yeah.
Emily Gorrie:
think when we think about making shifts in our business, and you said you had this right out of college, you started this marketing agency, and you had these clients with pretty big budgets, and you're kind of just the executioner, and you realize that didn't really align with your strategy. So when you made this shift in your business, it comes in different ways, right? There's the mental shift that you have to take, and then the physical shifts that you have to take to make changes in your business. So how do you go from clients who have these really big budgets to clients who are small business owners who I would argue maybe need more support, which are more your presence is more impactful for them, but they have smaller budgets? So how do you rectify for yourself maybe the shift in money that you're bringing in? if that shift is worthwhile, kind of aligning with your inner needs. How
AnnMarie Rose:
Mm.
Emily Gorrie:
do you rectify the monetary and the personal fulfillment pieces of that shift?
AnnMarie Rose:
This is a great question. I have my business owner who's pretty savvy with positioning answer that I could give you, but I'm just gonna give you like this straight up raw and real, okay?
Emily Gorrie:
Perfect.
AnnMarie Rose:
So, to clarify one thing, I started, I was working at a marketing agency.
Emily Gorrie:
Okay.
AnnMarie Rose:
I was there for like six months. So the big budgets, those were not my clients personally, that was the agency's clients that I was an executioner on the team, right? And... I was low man on totem pole there, so I wasn't making, I was right out of college, I wasn't making very much anyways. We also didn't, I was 23 years old, we didn't have kids, we didn't have, like,
Emily Gorrie:
Yes.
AnnMarie Rose:
and literally the, what I told myself when it basically came time to renew my contract and there was a mutual understanding that it was not gonna be a fit, so my options were either go get clients or go get another job. I don't know if you're familiar with Enneagram, I'm an Enneagram eight, I like being in charge. the idea of going through the job search process again and trying to sell myself to build somebody else's dream. I
Emily Gorrie:
Hmm.
AnnMarie Rose:
was just like, why not sell myself, sell what I wanna be doing to build my own dream and help somebody else build their own dream at the same time. And I mean, I was auditioning to teach fitness classes and kind of an opportunity came up for me which ended up being. a laughable story that I don't even, we probably don't have time to get into today, or and I don't know how relevant it would be, but basically like it was a fitness studio owner who was going a million different directions and just needed somebody to help ground the strategy. And I was like, I can help with that. So there, and I had a few clients come on in that like first month to where I kind of sort of matched the already like not
Emily Gorrie:
Hmm
AnnMarie Rose:
super livable income that I was making at the marketing agency.
Emily Gorrie:
Yeah.
AnnMarie Rose:
And what it came down to though was the fact like, we didn't have that, I just told myself like, if I'm gonna take this risk, I might as well take it now. Like I don't have other mouths to feed other than my own and my
Emily Gorrie:
Yep.
AnnMarie Rose:
husband's and my husband
Emily Gorrie:
Yep.
AnnMarie Rose:
had a job that he also subsequently left pretty quickly and then we were in this together with, you know, some various side things along the way. So that's the real answer is like. I took a messy leap because I could at that stage in my life. Would I take the same messy leap now? Probably not.
Emily Gorrie:
Yeah. Yeah, I feel like that's very on track with, I think, a lot of the fear that we have as moms at this point to be like, do I make a change? Do I
AnnMarie Rose:
Mmm
Emily Gorrie:
try something different because I'm feeling like called to do that? But I know that I have X, Y, and Z on the hook. I have mouths to feed. I have daycare to pay for. I have all of these other things. So. I appreciate kind of the transparency in that and just how easy that was because of the like current situation that you were in at the time.
AnnMarie Rose:
Yes,
Emily Gorrie:
So
AnnMarie Rose:
yeah.
Emily Gorrie:
where did...
AnnMarie Rose:
I at least wouldn't have taken making the leap as hastily as I did. I was like, all right, well, screw having a stable income, I'll figure it out. It's like, and I wouldn't just do that now, not to say I wouldn't take a leap into doing something different, but I wouldn't have just made the decision on a random Tuesday and then gone and got a kombucha to celebrate the fact that I basically had no money coming in. That would not be
Emily Gorrie:
The freedom,
AnnMarie Rose:
the,
Emily Gorrie:
yeah.
AnnMarie Rose:
yes, yes. I have lots and lots of clients who are moms who are making a leap and making a shift and I help them to do that without totally, just torching their life, right?
Emily Gorrie:
Yeah, absolutely. And maybe we touch on that a little bit. So I know in the overview that you had shared with me, there's this, I'm going to read what you wrote for me because I think it sums it up perfectly. It's right. You help your clients align the business model with vision, refining their offer suite, clarifying their brand message, streamlining their marketing and sales system so that they can impact and earn millions online without the overwhelm and burnout.
AnnMarie Rose:
Mm.
Emily Gorrie:
underlined without the overwhelming burnout because I think when we think about entrepreneurship, it's a beast in and of itself. And then you add motherhood on top of that. And I think we get to a point where, and I just say we, and I internalize this so deeply that maybe I should just say I, it's like I get to a point where. Perhaps the overwhelm seems just too great to find a way to do both. So I'd love to understand how you achieve this with your clients. I mean, from your perspective, like, you're going to be able to do this. You're going to be able to do this. what does that groove look like? Like, how do we get to a point where we can hone in on all of these things and not feel overwhelmed and not get to a point where we're burnt out by
AnnMarie Rose:
Mmm.
Emily Gorrie:
trying to achieve and be, quote unquote, maybe perfectionists almost in both areas of our life.
AnnMarie Rose:
This is a great question. I think there's kind of three components to this. One is the mindset piece of it. And I will tell you that in my own short, thus far, six month motherhood journey, the mantra I've adopted, and that has been a theme that's run throughout my client experiences. And I have a couple of clients who are either pregnant or have recently given birth, who this has also worked beautifully for. The mantra that I keep coming back to isn't necessarily going to be true tomorrow.
Emily Gorrie:
Mmm.
AnnMarie Rose:
And I don't always mean that on a day-to-day sense, but sometimes I do. This is true in motherhood and in business, and because I'm such a long-term thinker, I mean clearly I was seven years old envisioning my career
Emily Gorrie:
I love
AnnMarie Rose:
and family
Emily Gorrie:
it.
AnnMarie Rose:
life. That was internally a very difficult adjustment for my nervous system to make.
Emily Gorrie:
Hmm.
AnnMarie Rose:
I remember... dipping my toes back in when my baby was eight weeks old, just sort of, just dipping my toe in and all I could think to myself was how the heck is this gonna work long term? How is this gonna work long term? And it was that, I was not asking myself a helpful question. That question was dysregulating my nervous system and making me see impossibility when now I've begun to ask myself how might this look different tomorrow? If my baby wakes up, like last week he, for whatever reason, was waking up at like between two and three, multiple days in a row. Last night he slept from 6.15 to 6.15. So
Emily Gorrie:
Yeah.
AnnMarie Rose:
it's, and in business you might have a really challenging client that you're working with that you're kind of trying to navigate. Do I release this client? Do I try to work things out? And they may be going through something that you hop on a call the next week and it all of a sudden resolved itself. It's not always gonna be the case, but just
Emily Gorrie:
Yep.
AnnMarie Rose:
an example is that what feels like the absolute truth today that we can worry ourselves sick trying to solve a problem that may simply resolve itself or we may feel differently about it the next day. That has been a very, very helpful mindset shift for me to make and for me to then bring to my clients is that what's true today isn't necessarily gonna be true tomorrow. That's thing one.
Emily Gorrie:
Amazing. Yeah, I feel like just that in and of itself is so impactful, like the mindset shift
AnnMarie Rose:
Mm.
Emily Gorrie:
of also kind of maybe calling yourself out a bit of like this like thing that feels so traumatic today is going to feel lighter maybe tomorrow, maybe the next couple of days, maybe a week from now, like just trusting that it will move through, like just shifting the mind just a fraction is. Easier said than done, but so impactful when you can find a way to do it.
AnnMarie Rose:
Absolutely, and I think it just to call out the difficult piece of this and to not ignore the challenge, the real deep challenges is that sometimes it can actually look worse.
Emily Gorrie:
Hmm
AnnMarie Rose:
What I think is useful about this mantra is that it allows us to see things through a lens of not everything feeling so urgent because, and maybe this is a little bit of how my brain works. I mean, pre-baby. His name's Grant, by the way, so I might refer
Emily Gorrie:
Perfect.
AnnMarie Rose:
to him. Pre-Grant, I loved a good three hour time block on my calendar to get, knock a bunch of stuff out. That is not super realistic anymore, almost ever.
Emily Gorrie:
Yep.
AnnMarie Rose:
I might get that every so often on Wednesday because my husband and I have an understanding that like he's full ownership of parenting duties pretty much all day on Wednesday. But. So that was a difficult thing for my nervous system to adjust to, and so there was a piece of that that felt better and better and better as my nervous system adjusted to back and forth and things like that, but there have been ways, like the various client examples or things like that where I think, I can't remember if we were talking about this when we were chatting, but I know we'll go into kind of the intersection of motherhood and business, but which we're doing, obviously. Also, what I'm available for when it comes to client support I can offer and supports are number two core values. So I'm always looking for new ways to pour into my clients. It's also made me super aware of things that it's not my job to solve this for them
Emily Gorrie:
Mmm.
AnnMarie Rose:
or it's not do I need to refine my audience because this is actually a problem that before I had the energetic capacity to guide someone through. And I'm realizing that how I'm hardwired. They could be better supported by someone else, given the stage they're in, or given the circumstances they're in. And so that's been an example of something where I've actually, you know, if I've been a little rubbed the wrong way by something a client has said or done, and then I've said, well, what's true today is not necessarily gonna be true tomorrow. Tomorrow I might wake up and say, uh, it actually feels even like, you know, it's just adding to the pain now.
Emily Gorrie:
Yeah.
AnnMarie Rose:
So this is a clue, I'm listening, I'm listening, I'm gonna keep listening a little longer. I don't need to let this client go today, I don't need to change my whole business or messaging today, but I'm gonna keep listening and if this is a pattern, that's my clue, we need to do something different. So, I'm gonna keep listening, I'm gonna keep listening a little longer. I don't need to let this client go today, I don't need to change my whole business or messaging today, but I'm gonna keep listening and if this is a pattern, that's my clue, we need to do something different. So, I'm gonna keep listening, I'm gonna keep listening a little longer, I don't need to let this client go today, I don't need to change my whole business or messaging today, but I'm gonna keep listening and if this is
Emily Gorrie:
Yeah, amazing. I mean, I think. I think personal experience is like, and like reactions to what's happening around you and what was happening before is like our biggest clues. And I think as moms, like, and once I became a mom, I feel like that work really went into overdrive for me
AnnMarie Rose:
Hmm.
Emily Gorrie:
because I felt like there was a lot of like stories. There were a lot of stories, there were a lot of narratives that I relate. I didn't realize that I had internalized, especially being a mom. wanting to find time to continue career-driving aspirations that I had had. I spent most of my 20s creating a career for myself.
AnnMarie Rose:
Mm-hmm.
Emily Gorrie:
I did things a certain way and based on expectations that I thought were there of me, people were really supportive of all that I was achieving, impressed, all of that. Then I hit my 30s and I was like, okay, now I'm thinking about starting a family. All of those career aspirations paused, right? And then we hit 2020 and the pandemic and everything completely shifted too. So I feel like everything up until a certain point was no longer true for me. And I had to figure out these different stories and these expectations that I had on myself. And listening internally went into overdrive. I mean, I spent the first year of her, my daughter's life, not listening. to myself, and I literally spent the entire year listening to every crazy story, narrative, expectation of me. But I think I had to hit that in order to start being able to listen to myself again. So I appreciate this iteration of how that manifested for you. And I want to touch a little bit on how things changed for you. So Grant came along. He's six months old. You and your husband, you're in business together, correct?
AnnMarie Rose:
Mm-hmm, we are.
Emily Gorrie:
So I can't even imagine that. So maybe we touch a little bit on that too. But it's like you're both working together day in, day out. How do you support you and Marie? How do you support you? And then how do you support you and your husband in business? And then how do you support yourself as a mom to your son with all of these different shifting expectations?
AnnMarie Rose:
Whew, this is a great one. And we had a lot of conversations early on, and we still do, about how do everybody's needs get met? They're not gonna get met, like obviously, you know, Grant wasn't here six and a half months ago, so it was just the two, our two needs, and then, you know, the needs of the business, because that's, we try really hard to think of that as a different entity than the two of us.
Emily Gorrie:
Yep, yeah.
AnnMarie Rose:
we just had to think about those three things. And then Grant came along and it's, okay, how do we still make sure everybody's needs get met even though it's gonna look a little different? And I think asking, again, a lot of it comes down to just asking yourself helpful questions and being willing to have open conversations. So that's. Certainly one thing is just a constant, like how do we, and the prerequisite to this is a willingness to explore what it is that you need, and a willingness to come to terms with what it is that you need. One thing that I'll share, this is like super vulnerable for me, is that last summer we had a promotional, it was like, period of time so I was pregnant at this time and it did not go well. We had every reason to believe that it was going to go well. All of the metrics and all that stuff looked great. It was a fantastic, seemed like a perfect on paper partnership and it just resulted in almost nothing, no additional revenue coming in. Not fully nothing but basically nothing. And because we had, you know, that wasn't the only promotion that we had planned but it was about four months out from maternity leave and I, my husband and I just had a very honest conversation. I was like, this is so much pressure on the business that I'm the face of. He's not the face of it, he doesn't do client work. He is mainly in charge of the financial aspect and then any team related things that come up. And then also he's my sounding board for literally everything. I, and I just said this is so much pressure on this business and primarily one offer because I have. one group consulting offer that I'm so passionate about that I love delivering that really suits me well
Emily Gorrie:
Mm-hmm.
AnnMarie Rose:
and my ideal clients well. And I just said, like, what if some of these things that you've been doing for fun, communities he was involved in in other sectors could actually be generating some revenue for us and maybe they maybe don't even need to fall under this business, but what if they just, what if they could relieve a bit of pressure? And so we had that conversation and he got uncomfortable with putting himself out there in a way that he had never done before. And that one thing has led to another and that's led him to a full-time job offer. He's much better than me at like toggling between things and kind of being, he'll work at nine or he'll work at, like we probably work the same amount of hours, but mine are all, I like mine. to be like back to back and he
Emily Gorrie:
Yeah.
AnnMarie Rose:
likes to just sprinkle and he doesn't care if he's gonna like dive into something on a Saturday where I'm like, Friday to Sunday, I'm off duty.
Emily Gorrie:
Yep.
AnnMarie Rose:
So he just works a little differently than me. And so he's still doing like the financial side of the business and things like that because he likes a lot of various
Emily Gorrie:
He's
AnnMarie Rose:
things
Emily Gorrie:
very
AnnMarie Rose:
going
Emily Gorrie:
capable,
AnnMarie Rose:
on.
Emily Gorrie:
yeah,
AnnMarie Rose:
Yes,
Emily Gorrie:
he can do it.
AnnMarie Rose:
yes. But it came down to like me surrendering to the fact I needed a little relief. And exploring ways of getting that that weren't just me pushing harder.
Emily Gorrie:
Yeah. I mean, I think I really appreciate you sharing that because I think there's a level of worry of sharing some of those vulnerable asks of needing a little bit of different help or needing things to look a little bit differently because of the pressure that you're putting on
AnnMarie Rose:
Mm-hmm.
Emily Gorrie:
yourself for this business to create an environment, going into maternity leave, and kind of feeling like... There's a whole lot riding on what you're doing. And I appreciate that because I think about, right, as moms, if we go into starting a new business, this pressure that it has to take off or it has to succeed in whatever definition we've given to that immediately. And there's a timeline, ultimately, that will play out the way that it's meant to. And we are worthy of asking for things to look a little bit different. to
AnnMarie Rose:
Mm-hmm.
Emily Gorrie:
fulfill the needs that we have. And it's challenging to reconcile this like. I'm trying to think of the right word. Failure is not the right word. It's this shift in our perspective or this shift in our definition of what is successful or maybe questioning or kind of reevaluating what
AnnMarie Rose:
Hmm.
Emily Gorrie:
successful needs to look like right now or what success
AnnMarie Rose:
Mm-hmm.
Emily Gorrie:
is right now or what works for us right now. And I think the ability to be so vulnerable with your partner is so key to
AnnMarie Rose:
Mm-hmm.
Emily Gorrie:
ask for some of those. shifts in needs. And it's hard. I mean, it's
AnnMarie Rose:
Yeah.
Emily Gorrie:
so hard. Like, I think there's, and then it's also hard to reciprocate. Like, I know for myself, like, my poor husband, I love him so much. He's so good to me. Like, there's, I'm trying to do a lot of work these days around really being in tune with my needs. And then I forget sometimes that, like, he's trying to show up for my needs, that I'm communicating, and I'm vocalizing, and I forget. that I need to do the same.
AnnMarie Rose:
Mmm.
Emily Gorrie:
I need
AnnMarie Rose:
I'm with
Emily Gorrie:
to show
AnnMarie Rose:
you.
Emily Gorrie:
up for his needs.
AnnMarie Rose:
Guilty as charged.
Emily Gorrie:
Yeah, it's hard. It's really hard. And I think for men in particular to ask to stand up and say this isn't working, I need help. This needs to change is very alien to them. Depending on, I would argue maybe most men. I'm sure there's a handful out there that maybe that doesn't apply to. But. I know for my husband, it's like he just wants to do his best to show up for me and the needs that I have, especially with this like crazy-ass shift of becoming a mom. Like it has
AnnMarie Rose:
Mm.
Emily Gorrie:
completely turned my world upside down that I forget that I do have to carve out some space internally to show up for him as well as an individual. So I appreciate you sharing kind of your vulnerability and asking, and it just makes me reflect on this like partnership.
AnnMarie Rose:
Definitely. Yeah, it is so helpful to have those vulnerable conversations. One of the things that's been really helpful for us, too, is just, again, I always use the term, like, knowing how the other one is hardwired for success. And something we've used just as, like, a shortcut is various personality assessments. I use these with my clients, too.
Emily Gorrie:
Mmm.
AnnMarie Rose:
Human design is one that's useful. My husband's a reflector. If anyone listening knows anything about human design, they're very rare. And they kind of sample other people's energy. And I'm a generator so I have a lot of energy that I output so one thing we've learned Is that at the end of the day? He typically needs time to just sort of like release every all the energy He's like taken in through
Emily Gorrie:
Mmm.
AnnMarie Rose:
the day and just like be by himself usually just like scrolling on his phone Just getting lost in something. He's a big research guy, so usually he's looking at random articles whatever One of my love languages is quality time. My first is acts of service. He does great with that one. But my second is quality time. So I've had to reconcile a little bit that in the evenings, he needs 30 to 45 minutes to decompress and. What, you know, how can we navigate our evenings or can quality time be me looking forward to a Friday date night where he's not really going to like, we're
Emily Gorrie:
Hmm
AnnMarie Rose:
going to just like put everything away a little earlier than usual, I'm going to get two hours of quality time he still gets his, his time to fully like decompress the way he needs to. And that I don't have to have us like having an hour long chit chat every single night and. Also, how can I look at other things we're doing during the day, like taking a walk together as a family at three, as like my fill up of that quality time, you know?
Emily Gorrie:
Yeah, I love that. I'm reflecting as you're talking. We need to adapt some of that in our household, because my husband's a lot like you. It sounds like he loves, at the end of the day, reconnecting, coming back together, and having that time.
AnnMarie Rose:
Mm-hmm.
Emily Gorrie:
And I am a lot like your husband, where I've already been touched all day long. So my daughter goes to daycare Monday, Wednesday, Friday. But. Tuesdays and Thursdays are such rewarding yet challenging days for me because I'm touched all day long. And she just started full-time daycare those days. So we're trying to reconcile ways where it's like, he's like, oh, great. You have some quote unquote free time Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Let's hang out. I'm like, I don't have that much free time. I'm carving out this time for myself so I can have my alone time. So at the end of the day, when you do want to hang out with me, I've already done. my decompressing for myself. So we're working on it. We're talking about it. We're figuring
AnnMarie Rose:
Yeah.
Emily Gorrie:
it out. We're setting boundaries. We're figuring kind of what works for
AnnMarie Rose:
Yeah.
Emily Gorrie:
both of us. And I'm curious, from your perspective, I mean, you had mentioned you look at yourself, your husband, the business as separate entities that have needs. You add motherhood to the piece. How did adding your son to the picture shift some of those priorities for you? Or did
AnnMarie Rose:
Oh.
Emily Gorrie:
they? Or did it just strengthen what you already knew?
AnnMarie Rose:
Oh my gosh, I don't even know if I can fully put it into words. Yeah, family time and spending quality time with my son is a big priority for me. I am not okay with, like, it makes me cry to think about, and I hesitate to say this because I know there's, it's right for lots of people. The thought of dropping him off at daycare at 8 a.m. and picking him up at five and when like last night he didn't take his afternoon cat nap, so he went to bed at 6.15, that makes me wanna cry to only have like an hour with
Emily Gorrie:
Yes,
AnnMarie Rose:
him. I mean,
Emily Gorrie:
totally.
AnnMarie Rose:
he's only six months old, there's only so many things we can do, but I just, having the, again, the option to like yesterday, Jeremy had a lot of things he was doing, that's my husband, and so I was pretty much in mom mode from like 2.30 p.m. to when Grant went to bed. And it was a really nice break from business.
Emily Gorrie:
Yeah.
AnnMarie Rose:
And. There's, it's shifted my priorities in various areas that were already a priority. So it's always been a priority for me to take care of my own health. I say this to everybody, if you don't have your health, you don't have anything. If you're sick and in bed or hospitalized or whatever, you can't take care of your family, can't take care of business, you gotta
Emily Gorrie:
Yes.
AnnMarie Rose:
prioritize your health, you have to.
Emily Gorrie:
Yep.
AnnMarie Rose:
So from day one, it was, day one meaning like, as soon as, obviously there's like a couple weeks of like what's happening but pretty quickly it was like okay I'm back to meditating on a daily basis even if it's like five minutes to take care of my body and whatever capacity starting with like five-minute walk to the coffee shop now like I did a strength training workout this morning making sure that we've got healthy food here those things that that's that's just like the given that if I don't do this like nothing else is gonna work
Emily Gorrie:
Yep.
AnnMarie Rose:
so how does that look now? Okay, maybe I'm not gonna go to as many workout classes as I used to, but I'm still gonna do that workout. I've figured out even ways that Grant can be kind of entertained if I'm working
Emily Gorrie:
I love
AnnMarie Rose:
out
Emily Gorrie:
it,
AnnMarie Rose:
at all.
Emily Gorrie:
yep.
AnnMarie Rose:
A good dance workout will really get him laughing. That's my favorite
Emily Gorrie:
Ah,
AnnMarie Rose:
thing to do on Fridays.
Emily Gorrie:
so sweet, I love that.
AnnMarie Rose:
And then there is career and family time relationships, things of that nature. And... So career is a priority in my life. It's not for everyone. Some people, they're just like, okay, as long as we've got ourselves financially covered, we're good, I don't need my career to be the super fulfilling thing. My family members who are that way, who kind of, their work is their work, and they're doing it so that they can go travel whenever they want, or whatever.
Emily Gorrie:
Mmm. Mm-hmm.
AnnMarie Rose:
For me, my career, really, I need to be making an impact that feels fulfilling. So
Emily Gorrie:
Yep.
AnnMarie Rose:
it's been a constant like asking myself, okay, how is what feels fulfilling shifting for me?
Emily Gorrie:
Mmm.
AnnMarie Rose:
And it's a constant conversation. I think the theme of this conversation is constant conversations. And again, I am in a space of I'm only six months into this. And the baby changes so fast. You're reculating and styling a lot of identity shifts. So for me, everything has come down to just constant conversations with myself, with my husband, with... Soon to be a therapist. I've just basically put out feelers for a new therapist with trusted peers and advisors and colleagues and clients to constant conversations So Yeah, the my my priorities as a human the thing the areas of my life that feel most important to me Have not necessarily shifted. It's what? if we're thinking of them all as like cups, I guess, in front of me, it's what, how those cups stay filled up enough for me to feel like a complete whole human that's shifted and is requiring a constant conversation.
Emily Gorrie:
Yes, and I absolutely love that you use that analogy, because I think the message that you're sharing right now is so impactful of like, if you feel the pull to have more time spent at family time, more pulled to nurture your career or your business, that is absolutely 100% worth the. mindset shift for. Do it, right? It's like things are gonna change daily, weekly, monthly phase season of life. And I think just that message of like, you can do both is so impactful. And then it doesn't have to be equal 50-50. It doesn't have to be, you know, the exact same today, tomorrow, a year from now. It's just so. So powerful to really lean into that, because I think as moms and as business owners who become moms or moms who want to be business owners, personally for me, it's like I don't feel 100% fulfilled by being solely a stay-at-home mom.
AnnMarie Rose:
Mm.
Emily Gorrie:
And it's a really hard one to say out loud, because it's not that my daughter doesn't fulfill me, but it's spending, I don't know, 12, 14 hours a day. with her, even when my husband's there, right? I'm still there. She still needs mom. She still has needs, wants, desires. She's still just over two years loud. She makes noises. As somebody who's an introvert and retards us by myself, it's a lot. It is a lot. So I think just for those listening, it is 100% okay to want to find a balance between being that mom and being able to spend that quality fulfilling time with your kids, but also knowing that you're an individual and you can do other things.
AnnMarie Rose:
Mm-hmm.
Emily Gorrie:
That's my biggest lesson.
AnnMarie Rose:
Totally.
Emily Gorrie:
I can do
AnnMarie Rose:
And
Emily Gorrie:
more things.
AnnMarie Rose:
something I've noticed a lot of moms, and I noticed this with, I mean, like I said, many of my clients are moms. And I think in general as women, sometimes we're looking for like, permission to release some of the pressure that we're putting on ourselves. And if you can't tell from, many of my other anecdotes, I'm not much of a permission asker. So I'm like, I'm gonna give myself permission, ain't nobody else gonna like, I'm not gonna ask anybody else permission for this. So one of the things I've done, just intuitively, and I've shared it with a few other people is if I'm envisioning these, you know, cups, for whatever reason in my head, I'm actually picturing jars, whatever,
Emily Gorrie:
Perfect. Ha ha ha.
AnnMarie Rose:
jars in my mind of these areas that I know like make me feel again, like a whole human. and that I need them in some capacity to feel good in my life. So we've got like my own personal health and wellbeing and let's just lump that all in. That's physical, that's emotional, mental. I don't think that we, it's really like super necessary to separate it all out. So, I'm gonna go ahead and start with the first one. So, I'm gonna start with the first one. at least not in the phase of life I'm in at the moment. With that, we have motherhood, we have business and career, I have romantic relationship, and I'm gonna separate that from friends and family relationships, right? Those are kind of the five, yeah, I think those five jars, so to speak, that come to mind for me, that I know, like, definitely on a weekly basis, they all need to get poured into, right?
Emily Gorrie:
Yeah.
AnnMarie Rose:
But I don't put pressure on myself to pour into them every day. As a matter of fact, and I say I don't, yes, I get to the end of some days and I'm like, oh, I didn't respond to these text messages from friends or oh my gosh, you know, I meant to get to this, this and this in the business and I didn't today. Yes, I still say some of those things to myself, but I can come back to basically the rule I made for myself. Now I like to maybe touch, I like to be able to touch four of those areas in a day. I'm good with three.
Emily Gorrie:
Yeah.
AnnMarie Rose:
I'm good with three.
Emily Gorrie:
Yeah,
AnnMarie Rose:
So
Emily Gorrie:
I mean.
AnnMarie Rose:
if I have a day where I don't do like a skip a workout and I didn't meditate, those are the things I come back because those are pretty much an everyday thing. I'm not gonna freak out about it. Like, it's not the end of the world. What's not gonna be good, what's gonna further diminish what's already in that jar is me beating myself up about it.
Emily Gorrie:
Hmm. Mm-hmm.
AnnMarie Rose:
So I'm gonna be okay with it and look at like, okay, I poured into the business, I poured into my husband, I poured into motherhood. Friends and self will prioritize that tomorrow. And even like the friends and other relationships at this moment in this season, it's like that jar is getting poured into three days a week and I'm good. And by friend, I mean like I'm having, calling my mom, maybe I'll go meet up with a friend for coffee. It's not like I'm hanging out with a friend all day.
Emily Gorrie:
Right,
AnnMarie Rose:
That's
Emily Gorrie:
right, right.
AnnMarie Rose:
very rare that that's gonna happen.
Emily Gorrie:
Yeah, I mean, I love the... kind of allusion to just personally taking that pressure off of yourself. You have these goals for yourself. You know what's a priority in your life, and you know how you want to show up for them, and
AnnMarie Rose:
Mm-hmm.
Emily Gorrie:
what in this season of life is fulfilling to you. But it's that piece that you mentioned of what's going to make it worse when I don't do it, is if I beat myself up. I think is one of the catalysts in being able to actually. achieve fulfillment of when we slip up, or when we inevitably forget something, or something like that happens. We are our own worst enemy. We are
AnnMarie Rose:
Mmm.
Emily Gorrie:
going to beat ourselves up more than our girlfriend who we forgot to text back for five days. They get it. They totally get it. And if they don't, maybe we need to evaluate that. So.
AnnMarie Rose:
Ugh. 100%, 100%. Like, all my, I have so many friends right now who have new babies, and we all, like, text messages will go unanswered for five days, and I've finally, like, I don't apologize anymore. I'm like, you know, and
Emily Gorrie:
Yeah.
AnnMarie Rose:
I'm like, no apology needed. Like, get back when you get back, it's fine.
Emily Gorrie:
Yeah, totally.
AnnMarie Rose:
I'm not sitting here noticing, wondering where your text message is.
Emily Gorrie:
Yeah, I mean, and if I needed you, I'd call you.
AnnMarie Rose:
Yes.
Emily Gorrie:
It's so funny, we go through that stage of life where it's like, we don't want to pick up the phone and we just text and it is what it is. Now I'm like, if I need you, I'm going to call you. So if I call
AnnMarie Rose:
Yeah.
Emily Gorrie:
you and you have a moment, please answer the phone because it's likely that I need something from you
AnnMarie Rose:
Mm-hmm.
Emily Gorrie:
in that moment. So if you have capacity and you can help me out, please answer the phone.
AnnMarie Rose:
Yeah, easier, or I love voice messages.
Emily Gorrie:
Hmm
AnnMarie Rose:
It's kind of weird on iPhone, but I don't know if you use Voxer at all. I
Emily Gorrie:
Yep.
AnnMarie Rose:
use Voxer with clients and with friends, especially my mom friends, because we can speed it up. We can slow it down. We can pause it. We can come back to it.
Emily Gorrie:
I love that.
AnnMarie Rose:
It's hands-free.
Emily Gorrie:
Yeah, totally. I never thought I use it in a professional sense, but I never think to use it casually, like with friends. I'll do on Instagram, you can do the voice
AnnMarie Rose:
Yep.
Emily Gorrie:
memo stuff. I've used it that way. But I love that, that you could just send it. It's much more personal
AnnMarie Rose:
Yeah,
Emily Gorrie:
that way.
AnnMarie Rose:
definitely. And I mean, to be fair, like many of the mom friends that I do this with are also business owners, so we're using it in a professional capacity as well.
Emily Gorrie:
Yeah.
AnnMarie Rose:
I don't have like many friends that, my friend who's like a professor comes to mind, like we're not boxering. We have our, you know, monthly catch up and then we text in between. Ha.
Emily Gorrie:
Yeah, yeah, I love that. I love that. Before we wrap up, I want to touch a little bit on boundaries. So
AnnMarie Rose:
Hmm.
Emily Gorrie:
one of the things that, as we prep for this interview, you had mentioned was the benefits of boundaries for yourself in business, and I'm assuming in personal life as well. And I want to touch a little bit on that because I think boundaries are a tricky one. We have to get very clear personally on how to do that. what our boundaries look like and identifying what those are. We do owe it to the people around us to communicate our boundaries, but it is ultimately up to us to enforce them. And I think that that is the sticky part a bit, where I think people get tripped up of boundaries. Well, I told them that I didn't like when you do X, Y, and Z, or I told a client that I don't have time on these days, yet they still message me whatever. The part where I think a lot of people get tripped up and I get tripped up is remembering it's up to me to
AnnMarie Rose:
Inforce.
Emily Gorrie:
gracefully
AnnMarie Rose:
Mm-hmm.
Emily Gorrie:
enforce them and not be angry about them, but find a way to enforce those with those around me. So from your perspective, how has boundary setting now with motherhood in business been such a key part of success for you?
AnnMarie Rose:
Mm. So boundary setting has been a key part of success for me for maybe my whole life. And it's something I love helping others to work on, because I think it's something I'm pretty good at. Sometimes I will say, though, I am too good at it,
Emily Gorrie:
Hahaha
AnnMarie Rose:
to where I over anticipate a need for a boundary and I will set it in advance when it's unnecessary.
Emily Gorrie:
Mmm.
AnnMarie Rose:
So I just want to own that, that that's something that is a work in progress for me. And so what's been helpful in that, and I think it goes both ways, whether you struggle to set and hold boundaries or whether you're someone who's like, I need to protect, like I need to over set a boundary in case this happens or in case of whatever. is just like what. asking yourself what would feel supportive and then maybe why and when. Like why is it, why would this feel supportive and when would this feel supportive? Is it an always thing? Is it an always with this person thing? Is it a... just for this season thing.
Emily Gorrie:
Hmm.
AnnMarie Rose:
What that's done for me, asking those kind of questions on a business sense is not put unnecessary work on my team to go, like, because I, a lot of times in business, I try to quote unquote set boundaries by building. Systems into what we're doing that kind of sets the boundary for me So for example like when a new client comes on board they have access to my they get access to my boxer And it tells them when I'm available and boxer and like the system does that for me
Emily Gorrie:
Yep.
AnnMarie Rose:
And so my clients know when they can expect to hear back from me on boxer So they don't expect your back from me on boxer at times outside of that But what I have noticed again it comes back to that what's true today is not necessarily gonna be true tomorrow, is that my brain is very much a problem solving brain. So if I'm experiencing a problem today that is, relates to somebody else's or some other circumstance like kind of, creating an energy that isn't supportive to me, it's not, I, pause rather than immediately rush to set a boundary to prevent that in the future,
Emily Gorrie:
Yep.
AnnMarie Rose:
because I know my tendency there. And again, then I start to look for patterns. Is this a pattern?
Emily Gorrie:
Yep.
AnnMarie Rose:
If it is, then either a deeper conversation needs to be had and maybe it's just a casual, like I don't love when my clients email me, like just vox for me, it's way faster, I'm a verbal processor. It just. That's how I like to communicate with my clients. So if I get email one from a new client, I'll say, I'll reply back and I'll say, by the way, just ping me on Voxter next time. And then if they keep doing it. then the next time we're on a call, or I wouldn't do this in a group setting, but I would send an email or have my team send an email that's like, hey, just as a reminder, Voxer is the place where you can receive support moving forward. It's gonna allow Anne-Marie to show up as her best for you, and it allows you to have a space to kind of dump your thoughts and avoid clogging up both your emails. So there's always also a way when we're in. And everyone has different types of businesses, but most of the clients I work with are coaches, consultants, or online service providers. So we're dealing with people a lot.
Emily Gorrie:
Mm-hmm.
AnnMarie Rose:
And when you're pouring into people, you being at your highest and best is also in the best interest of their highest and best.
Emily Gorrie:
Totally. Yeah, totally. So thinking about how do boundaries not only support you and how you're able to show up, but it does affect the way that you're able to respond to your clients and to your family and to whoever is on the other end of your energy source at that moment. It's just so important to be able to do that. And I love just the pause effect that you mentioned of just saying, oh, this doesn't feel good, again, listening back in. Oh, this doesn't feel so good. Am I trying to rush to protect myself from feeling this, like, oh, this doesn't feel so good again? And is this a one-time thing, or does this boundary need to be established? So I love the narrative that you shared around those, because I think it can be adapted in any part of our lives.
AnnMarie Rose:
Yeah, not everything has to be figured out and fully resolved today.
Emily Gorrie:
Amen.
AnnMarie Rose:
It's
Emily Gorrie:
I-
AnnMarie Rose:
another way of relieving, like, if you add motherhood into the mix and then use that as a catalyst to put more pressure on yourself, good luck. Good luck. Because it's already, we're hardwired. Like literally, biologically. there's more pressure on you to
Emily Gorrie:
Yeah.
AnnMarie Rose:
provide, to nurture. So if we start putting more pressure on ourselves in other areas, it'll break us. It'll break us. And so
Emily Gorrie:
Yeah.
AnnMarie Rose:
asking yourself, it's what I do, ask myself like, is this something, how can I like relieve some of the pressure around this? And sometimes it's taking a pause. Sometimes it's saying, you know, I'm good with. pouring into three of my cups versus all five, telling myself I need to pour into all five or I haven't done enough, you know?
Emily Gorrie:
Yeah, totally. For the sake of time, I think we should probably wrap up. But I want to just touch a little bit on the work that you do with your clients. So as an online business manager, what is the role that you play with these coaches and these consultants? And how do you support them in identifying their visions and really honing in on that and solidifying their strategy so that they can show up? as the best them. So how do you show up for them?
AnnMarie Rose:
Good question. So I always call myself an online business strategist. If anyone listening is in the online business space, you've probably heard online business manager before as well, which we do have one of those who works with us, but they kind of handle the, I refer to her as the goddess of all things behind the scenes. So that's what a typical online business manager would do. So I call myself an online business strategist. Most of my clients would call me their coach. I'll just
Emily Gorrie:
Hehehehe
AnnMarie Rose:
call it what it is. But I do focus more on the strategy side of things, and the way I see myself as a bit more of a consultant, where I differentiate those two things between a consultant is someone who is gonna problem solve and give you answers more of the time, and a coach is typically someone who's going to guide you to your own answers. And so I do put on my coaching hat from time to time, but I like to say I do about 60 to 70% consulting, 30 to 40% coaching. And we really, most of my, my clients are in a season of transition in their business, their professional life, and they're wanting to have a fulfilling business life that also affords them the freedom to show up in their life the way they want to be showing up in their life. And a lot of business guidance out there doesn't factor that into the mix. So I do.
Emily Gorrie:
Yep.
AnnMarie Rose:
And we start out with visioning, like really, I say extensive, it all happens in kind of one fell swoop where we are visioning for their business, a little bit of long-term, a little bit of short-term, and life is factored into that because it doesn't make me excited. for you to help you build a business that feels like a prison that you need to escape from so you can actually enjoy any semblance of your life. That's not gonna make anybody happy. So we gotta factor in that you're a whole human and consider what you want business and life to look like. And then we look at what you've currently got going on in your business. Are there things that make sense to leverage in that journey forward toward your vision that you currently have going on almost always? There are things, so it's not a, let's burn this to the ground and start from scratch. It's a, what are we gonna leverage to make
Emily Gorrie:
Yeah.
AnnMarie Rose:
this journey forward easier and create greater profitability and greater space for you right now, like today.
Emily Gorrie:
Mmm.
AnnMarie Rose:
That's typically always where we're gonna start is I want you enjoying more spaciousness in your... bank account, spaciousness in your bank account is meaning there's more in there,
Emily Gorrie:
Yep. Yep.
AnnMarie Rose:
and in your calendar tomorrow. What that's gonna do is give you room to grow. If you don't have that, you're gonna be too crunched to grow, like too squeezed. So that's what we do first and foremost, is look at how are we gonna address the now to create more spaciousness. to then pour into that longer term vision of what's the next level of
Emily Gorrie:
Hmm
AnnMarie Rose:
the impact that you wanna make, the income you wanna generate, the freedom you wanna have. And we get really clear on what the specifics of that look like together and strategize a roadmap forward, but we don't start necessarily moving towards that bigger picture roadmap until we've created greater spaciousness with the here and now. And usually, to be honest, that creating of the spaciousness is usually just in the first. 30 to 90 days. So I work with all my clients for typically at least a year because I want their day to day. We hold the vision of what we want longer term in the next three to five years. And we also, we start by creating a day to day that feels better, that allows you to show up as your highest to best. It allows you to take, you know, work a four day work week if you want, or a three day work week if you want, or two
Emily Gorrie:
Yep.
AnnMarie Rose:
days. And
Emily Gorrie:
Ha
AnnMarie Rose:
you're
Emily Gorrie:
ha.
AnnMarie Rose:
like, they're really, truly what. what's best for you in your life and allows you to show up as your highest and best is at, if you are the face of your business, or the CEO or the one who's most involved with whatever it is, you showing up as your highest and best is almost always gonna lead to your business doing better.
Emily Gorrie:
Yeah, absolutely,
AnnMarie Rose:
So,
Emily Gorrie:
absolutely.
AnnMarie Rose:
that's, I didn't get too deep into the weeds there, but then we map the strategy forward to the, the longer term vision and then we start working towards it. But we don't add it on top of what you've already got going. We look at how to maximize, simplify, and create greater space with what you've got going on now so that then we can begin navigating that path to the next level without it burning you out or overwhelming
Emily Gorrie:
Yeah,
AnnMarie Rose:
you.
Emily Gorrie:
yeah. I mean, just as I'm listening to you share that overall vision for your work with these business owners, it feels so light. It's
AnnMarie Rose:
Mmm.
Emily Gorrie:
like the understanding of growth can be light. Doesn't have to be more, more, more, right? As long as you can simplify and visualize and create, like you said, this beautiful space for more things to drop in. things that are more aligned with what you're looking for just feel so light and like energetically exciting. So I love that you were able to share that and give a little bit of kind of overview into how you work with your clients. So for the sake of kind of wrapping this up, how can our listeners engage with you? Can they,
AnnMarie Rose:
Mm.
Emily Gorrie:
where can they find you? How can they work with you? Are you taking on new clients at this time? Like, what does that look like for you?
AnnMarie Rose:
Yeah, so I love connecting over on Instagram. If you're there, I'm at ask ASK, Anne Marie Rose. And I like, just send me a DM. I love chatting. My stories are definitely a mix of business and personal. And I do share some business insights over there. My favorite place to do that is like to go deep here on podcasts though. So I'm really glad we're chatting today. And my website is andamarierose.com. I will tell you that's one thing there's a lot of stuff about quizzes, which is really not something I do. Like if my clients need a quiz as like a way to grow their email list, I have resources and guidance and strategies to help them, but it's not something that I do. Like specifically anymore.
Emily Gorrie:
Mm-hmm.
AnnMarie Rose:
And yes, I am accepting new clients. We've recently restructured some elements of our signature, our core offer, which is a group consulting experience called Elevate and Impact with Amazing Women. In that program, it's not your typical like, watch a course video and then come ask me questions. It's a strategic partnership. that I believe is enhanced by navigating it in community. There
Emily Gorrie:
Mmm.
AnnMarie Rose:
are one-on-one experiences though, because I go deep. I get in the weeds of your business, and I know what's up left, right, front, and center, which is why we keep it pretty intimate. I don't take more than the number that was coming to mind for me this morning when I was thinking, how many do I really wanna have in there over the course of the next 12 months? I think it scares me to say this, but I'm just gonna say it, because it feels right. The number is 24. I used to say 48.
Emily Gorrie:
Amazing.
AnnMarie Rose:
With how my life looks right now, and what I know feels most fulfilling to me, which is being all up in my clients' businesses, 24, 24 feels good. And I'm calling, I have some exciting new things that we're pouring into that experience to make it even more comprehensive than it already is. And I know I'm biased,
Emily Gorrie:
amazing.
AnnMarie Rose:
but. It's pretty comprehensive. And
Emily Gorrie:
When
AnnMarie Rose:
it's
Emily Gorrie:
is
AnnMarie Rose:
not
Emily Gorrie:
that
AnnMarie Rose:
a
Emily Gorrie:
launching?
AnnMarie Rose:
blueprint thing. It is open. We technically have open enrollment until all the spots are filled, which I have to look. I know we don't have a ton of spots at this exact moment, but we will have definitely a few. I know we have a few open spots, and I know we'll have a few more opening up here in the near future. And one thing that is coming, though, I don't know when this is getting published. But you want to tell me?
Emily Gorrie:
Uh, to be honest, I don't know.
AnnMarie Rose:
Okay, that's fine. One thing I do know is that there is a price increase coming with the additional resources that we're pouring in. So, you know, not to make this like a hard pitch or anything but if anyone is listening and tells me that they're, you know, came from the Project Mom podcast and they want to chat further, I will honor the pricing that it is currently, which is 3,000 less than it will be at the end of next month, so.
Emily Gorrie:
Amazing. I, thinking about the calendar, am probably, let's see, we're in April, so probably be in May at some
AnnMarie Rose:
Okay.
Emily Gorrie:
point. So we will get that up and running for you. And we'll share all the links and whatnot on how listeners can find you, and I'll make sure to connect with you and we can get everything linked up correctly and accurately so you can engage with our listeners as well. And I just thank you so much for being vulnerable and honest and willing to share. And I'm excited to kind of follow along and see what other great things that you have coming down the pipe.
AnnMarie Rose:
Thank you so much for having me here. This was like a really fun, comprehensive conversation that just like covered all the bases of what my life is and has been for the past six months.
Emily Gorrie:
Hehehehe
AnnMarie Rose:
So I really enjoyed it and hope that your listeners take some nuggets away.
Emily Gorrie:
Thank you.